The following video presentation touches on a number of facts about the origins of the Trinity and how the doctrine is not related to inspired scripture. Below that is a short commentary on Trinitarian origins and shortcomings as compared to inspired scripture. Is God a Trinity?Presented by Steve Myers, Beyond Today TVCommentaryWho is a judge of the person who sincerely devotes him or herself to follow Christ? Let God judge the man or woman who, hearing and reading the ten commandments, for example, sincerely desires to obey those commandments. One may look at the sincere follower of Christ and conclude the person is not obeying those commandments as they should, but let God be the judge. But, what of the Trinity? Can a person read his or her Bible and find the command to believe in God as a Trinity? Is a Trinity even discussed in the Bible? Exhaust yourself with study into the matter, and you will come up empty. Instead, you will have to study into religious, philosophical, and political human history to discover the introduction, acceptance, and imposition of the Trinity doctrine upon what is called Christianity, today. Yet, mainstream Christianity condemns the man or woman who would deny the Trinity. It is an extra-biblical doctrine, introduced two centuries after the decease of all the Apostles, used specifically and purposefully to judge you as a "true" Christian. It would not matter, when all was said and done, what other doctrines you accepted, even all other doctrines of the mainstream church. It would not matter, when all was said and done, what tradition you accepted, even all traditions of the mainstream church. If you do not accept the doctrine of the Trinity, you are considered a heretic worthy of condemnation. Historically, people paid with their lives for refusing to accept the doctrine, whether they called themselves Christian or not. And, presently, in the collective mind of the church, you are condemned. They have consigned you to eternal damnation for rejecting this man-made doctrine. We read in Acts...
Note in verse 12, it is the name of Jesus, and only the name of Jesus of Nazareth, by which we MUST be saved; not the Trinity. You may say, "Well, of course!" Yet, to reject the Trinity doctrine in the eyes of mainstream Christianity is to be condemned to eternal damnation. In truth, you will find that the main identifier of FALSE Christianity is not found in whether a person completely understands, though sincerely trying, all of scripture (After all, are we not GROWING in grace and knowledge?), but, instead, in adoption of doctrine that does not originate in the Bible, and, with the acceptance of that doctrine, the rejection and condemnation of all who will not embrace it. Revealed in scripture is a church that calls itself Christian but behaves the harlot, instead of the chaste virgin. This church, in prophecy, even takes the lives of true believers, those who follow God in both spirit and truth (John 4:23-24), the truth being the word of God (John 17:17; Colossians 1:5; 1 Thessalonians 2:13).
Let us do our best to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord, Jesus Christ (2 Peter 3:18), worshipping the Father and Jesus Christ in spirit and truth (John 4:23-24). It is by their Holy Spirit we are given the ability to accomplish such a task. A Powerful Revelation!When you begin to appreciate the nature and revealed composition of the Godhead as is expressed by the Bible, that understanding leads to a whole new view of God's word as it pertains to His proposed relationship with you. God is adding to the Family of God just as the word of God emphasizes over and over again. God is not a closed "system", as the Trinity concludes, but a dynamic family known to the readers of the Bible as Father and Son, creative in such a miraculous way as to provide sonship to those who love the way and will of God. This is all done by that shared Holy Spirit revealed in the Bible, able even to be imparted as earnest to fleshly man (2 Cor. 5:5; Eph. 1:1214), those who would lay down their lives for God and God's good news for all mankind; any who will believe and follow Jesus the Christ. Your purpose is profound! Learn of it. Believe it. Embrace it. Join the club and begin your journey NOW!
Suggested SitesLeave a CommentComments (51)Topic: Index Sort        John (Zimbabwe) says... Hi William You just will not see my points (i) You keep confusing 'nature;' and 'identity' Christ has a different 'identity' to the Lord God Almighty..they are separate individual acting and thinking entities. Christ has the "divine nature". because he has inherited it from the source i.e. his Father who is God (John 20v17) (ii) If Christ is God and God is not the son then Christ is not God William, you ramble on giving us the traditional nonsense - just stop ... Read More 24th January 2015 10:53pm  William says... The human side of Jesus prayed to the Father i.e. the Spirit that dwelt in Him, same as I pray to the Holy Spirit in me. Jesus was the Father manifest in the FLESH (John 14:8-10;1 Tim 3:16, Matthew 9:2; Isaiah 9:6, Mat.1:23). Whom did Jesus tell us to pray to? True, He told us to pray to the Father. But He also told us to pray to Himself. Quote:"And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will ... Read More 24th January 2015 12:52pm John (Zimbabwe) says... Hi Bradley Well done on becoming at N.T. It takes a brave soul to stand up against the derision of fearful trinitarians. You will have found that- (i) The Doctrine of the Trinity is not 'consistent' with reason or simple logic (ii) All trinitarian models are not supported by scripture. God Bless you in your search for truth. John 24th January 2015 8:17am   I have recently become a non trinaterian, I became a Seventh Day Adventist believing that this church was the way. I have found that this church has backslided from its original theology. The founders of this church were all non Trinitarians. Now after 160years later the church has become ecumenical. 24th January 2015 12:59am  admin says... Bradley, I did not know that SDA started out non-Trinitarian. That's interesting. It's sad that they ended up following traditions of men.You can find non-Trinitarian sabbath and Holy Day keepers through the following website, "http://south-africa.ucg.org/", in case you'd like to check them out. 24th January 2015 7:37am   Hi William I think one has to be very careful here! I have not doubt that Christ was speaking allegorically when he used the word 'temple' There are many texts, written in clear language , which argue against what you are saying. Consider Christ is Gods' servant (Acts 3v25 and Acts 4 v 27) whom GOD raised from the dead. Many other verses e.g. Acts 3 verses 13-15 make the same point. God cannot die but he can and does resurrect others. I'd be interested to know who you think ... Read More 20th January 2015 12:26am William says... Hi John If you read carefully what I said, Jesus in His physical, visible form was a man i.e. a human being called "the son of God". In His spirit He was 100 % God for God is a Spirit. When Jesus prayed, He was not praying as God but as a man. Only human beings pray. Angels don't pray to God (they have no reason to)as they have no needs. Angels only worship God. If angels don't pray, how could a divine being, the supposed second person of a trinity? 24th January 2015 10:41am William says... It wasn't allegorical. The Bible plainly says He meant His body. So He was going to raise His body from the dead. Jesus did not die as God, but as a man. Only human beings die. Even angels don't die that sort of death. Have you ever wondered how unjust it would be for God to kill someone for sins He did not commit as appeared to have happened to Jesus? But no, God Himself took on human form and paid the price Himself.There is only one Saviour and that is God Himself. When Adam and Eve ... Read More 24th January 2015 1:09pm John (Zimbabwe) says... Hi William PART 2 There is another word for WORSHIP and that is 'Latreou' (Strongs G 3000) It is derived from the word "Latris' which means 'TO SERVE' and is usually used to describe the duties of hired servants It appears in the NT 21 times (i) 18 times to YHWH usually in reference to rites and services offered by priests (ii) 2 times to describe misplaced or idolatrous worship - e.g. worship of idols ( Acts 7 v 42 and 'worship of a creature other than the creator ... Read More 19th January 2015 2:55am William says... Another point to raise is: Who raised Jesus from the dead? Many would say the Father. But Jesus Himself said, Destroy this temple and I will raise it up. He also said, I have power to lay down my life and I have power to take it up again. If we are dealing with two Beings here, then there is contradiction in Scripture. Besides if someone else raised Jesus from the dead, then He did not really conquer death for us - a fundamental of the gospel. Then what about others who have ever been raised ... Read More 19th January 2015 6:04pm Hi William, You make some interesting points! I would like to dwell for one moment on the use of the word 'WORSHIP' My reply will require 2 contiguous posts Christ received and accepted 'worship' on many occasions The Greek word for 'worship' is 'proskyeno'(Strongs G 4352) and it literally means 'bowing before' It is used (i) To kiss ones hand out of reverence (ii)To fall before (iii)To pay homage to superiors (a) Jewish High Priests (b) God (c) Christ ... Read More 19th January 2015 2:37am William says... You make a clear distinction between the divinity and the humanity of Jesus Christ and the trinity doctrine crumbles before you as will the Jehovah's Witness doctrine. As God Jesus accepted worship,forgave sins, cast out devils created loaves, calmed the storm etc. As a man, He prayed, ate food, slept, died, learned etc. Father, Son, Holy Spirit is the same Being revealing Himself in three stages- God mysteriously coming closer and closer until He settles in the human heart, His true abode. ... Read More 18th January 2015 4:46pm John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Dear "Lets reason' and Ishbeli You are both absaolutely correct, and one wonders why so much effort is put into trying to separate men and women who believe in the ONE True God. As you say the Christian Bible, and indeed the Tanakh, talk about "the Lord our God is one Lord' One means one!! Trinitarians try to tell one that the Hebrew word used for 'one' is 'echad'. While it is true that 'one' can mean a single entiry or a 'multiple' entity the ... Read More 8th January 2015 12:28am John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Hi Do you really believe that falling under the umbrella of the Roman Catholic Church did us all a favour? This doctrine was propogated by brutality and the sword. It will take another generation of the 'information age' to rid ourselves of this abomination called the trinity. In the meantime it remains as Christianitys 'open wound' and gives Muslims a chance to demolish Christianity.Blessings John 23rd December 2014 6:43am  Lets Reason (egypt) says... Brother John actually muslims wouldnt want to demolish christianity but demolish the misinterpretations of the Bible, demolish trinity& crucifixion, we believe Jesus PBUH was a messenger not a God and not his begotten son, the Biblical Language used the word son for all those who believed & followed the teachings of Jesus PBUH e.g John 1:12, Romans 8:14, Genesis 6:2, Exodus 4:22 and this exactly what the revised standard version of the Bible says,that the word "begotten" in ... Read More 30th December 2014 6:00pm Page 1 of 3
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You forget that 'arms' is not a person
and that 'legs' is not a person.
You are a unique person with a unique identity. You share a human nature with mankind.
I am a father, grandfather, econometrician and CPA -and a husband, but all of this is packaged into ONE unique identity called "John B"
Remember above all that 'nature' is NOT 'identity" Blessings
John