The following video presentation touches on a number of facts about the origins of the Trinity and how the doctrine is not related to inspired scripture. Below that is a short commentary on Trinitarian origins and shortcomings as compared to inspired scripture. Is God a Trinity?Presented by Steve Myers, Beyond Today TVCommentaryWho is a judge of the person who sincerely devotes him or herself to follow Christ? Let God judge the man or woman who, hearing and reading the ten commandments, for example, sincerely desires to obey those commandments. One may look at the sincere follower of Christ and conclude the person is not obeying those commandments as they should, but let God be the judge. But, what of the Trinity? Can a person read his or her Bible and find the command to believe in God as a Trinity? Is a Trinity even discussed in the Bible? Exhaust yourself with study into the matter, and you will come up empty. Instead, you will have to study into religious, philosophical, and political human history to discover the introduction, acceptance, and imposition of the Trinity doctrine upon what is called Christianity, today. Yet, mainstream Christianity condemns the man or woman who would deny the Trinity. It is an extra-biblical doctrine, introduced two centuries after the decease of all the Apostles, used specifically and purposefully to judge you as a "true" Christian. It would not matter, when all was said and done, what other doctrines you accepted, even all other doctrines of the mainstream church. It would not matter, when all was said and done, what tradition you accepted, even all traditions of the mainstream church. If you do not accept the doctrine of the Trinity, you are considered a heretic worthy of condemnation. Historically, people paid with their lives for refusing to accept the doctrine, whether they called themselves Christian or not. And, presently, in the collective mind of the church, you are condemned. They have consigned you to eternal damnation for rejecting this man-made doctrine. We read in Acts...
Note in verse 12, it is the name of Jesus, and only the name of Jesus of Nazareth, by which we MUST be saved; not the Trinity. You may say, "Well, of course!" Yet, to reject the Trinity doctrine in the eyes of mainstream Christianity is to be condemned to eternal damnation. In truth, you will find that the main identifier of FALSE Christianity is not found in whether a person completely understands, though sincerely trying, all of scripture (After all, are we not GROWING in grace and knowledge?), but, instead, in adoption of doctrine that does not originate in the Bible, and, with the acceptance of that doctrine, the rejection and condemnation of all who will not embrace it. Revealed in scripture is a church that calls itself Christian but behaves the harlot, instead of the chaste virgin. This church, in prophecy, even takes the lives of true believers, those who follow God in both spirit and truth (John 4:23-24), the truth being the word of God (John 17:17; Colossians 1:5; 1 Thessalonians 2:13).
Let us do our best to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord, Jesus Christ (2 Peter 3:18), worshipping the Father and Jesus Christ in spirit and truth (John 4:23-24). It is by their Holy Spirit we are given the ability to accomplish such a task. A Powerful Revelation!When you begin to appreciate the nature and revealed composition of the Godhead as is expressed by the Bible, that understanding leads to a whole new view of God's word as it pertains to His proposed relationship with you. God is adding to the Family of God just as the word of God emphasizes over and over again. God is not a closed "system", as the Trinity concludes, but a dynamic family known to the readers of the Bible as Father and Son, creative in such a miraculous way as to provide sonship to those who love the way and will of God. This is all done by that shared Holy Spirit revealed in the Bible, able even to be imparted as earnest to fleshly man (2 Cor. 5:5; Eph. 1:1214), those who would lay down their lives for God and God's good news for all mankind; any who will believe and follow Jesus the Christ. Your purpose is profound! Learn of it. Believe it. Embrace it. Join the club and begin your journey NOW!
Suggested SitesLeave a CommentComments (51)Topic: Index Sort          It seems that your ministry and the Jehovah's Witnesses have a problem with the use of the word TRINITY with reference to the Godhead.My advise to is just don't use the word and as the preacher in this video says JUST BELIEVE IN GOD FATHER, SON & SPIRIT other than wasting your energy runnning round in circles. If what the preacher claims Constatine did is true it had a positive effect of bringing God's People together under the umbrella of the Roman Catholic Church. After all ... Read More  Reply Permalink Flag 4 123rd December 2014 6:14am  ishbeli says... “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD” Deuteronomy 6:4 “Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.” Isaiah 44:8 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isaiah 45:5 “Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like ... Read More 7th January 2015 12:32pm ishbeli says... “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD” Deuteronomy 6:4 “Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.” Isaiah 44:8 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isaiah 45:5 “Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like ... Read More 7th January 2015 12:41pm  Whilst it is true that the word Trinity (Three in one) is an extra biblical definition I feel that the oneness of the three persons of the trinity is what makes any human definition very difficult to understand or even fathom as we have no human parallels to work with. The first person of the Godhead to be individually mentioned in Scripture is the Holy Spirit. Our understanding therfore of God is necessarily limited to what is revealed in the Bible only. It is clear that references to ffather, ... Read More 22nd December 2014 12:48am  John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Hi Admin Much of the 'imagery' in the synoptic gospels was designed to impress Jewish converts that what was being taught 'resonated' with Jewish teching.At the end of thje day salvation is (i) By GODS good grace (ii) Requires repentance.We are required to be 'born again' which boils down to having a new heart and living within the tenants of Mark 12 verses 29-35.Christ came to show us THE WAY.Every BLessing John 16th November 2014 10:11am John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Hi Admin There is a very big difference between the words used in Exodus 3 v 14 and those which appear in John Chapter 8. In Exodus we have 'ego eimi o on' which means 'I am the being' or 'I am the existing one' The words used in John Chapter 8 are very commonly used words 'ego eimi' or I an the one' You will note that in John 8 v 28 we have the same words ' When you lift up the Son of Man you willrealise that I AM and that I can do nothing of my own, but ... Read More 14th November 2014 10:08pm  admin (US) says... And what is the result of your reasoning, John? If God would make a god-man to save us, why didn't God just make god-man beings from the beginning? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. The type of person you are describing is a robot, the very thing God is not wanting to create. God wants to create sons and daughters who willingly choose only God's way. If all it took for man not to sin from the beginning was to be conceived of the Holy Spirit, then why ... Read More 15th November 2014 7:28am John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Hi Admin I note that you do not accept that Christ is a created being. If we say that Christ is the 'first-born' then we can imply that there was a time when he 'was not'. These are very deep matters and are best discussed in specialised fora - such as Trinities.org. I note that your 'take 'on Philippians 2 is the 'standard' one - yet is is so clear that the verses you note are refrring to the 'second Adam' who, unlike the 'first adam' did not ... Read More 14th November 2014 12:32pm admin (US) says... Let's suffice it to say, John, that, though we may heartily agree that God is not a Trinity, we are in complete disagreement as to who or what God is.I AM spoke to Moses and Jesus claims to be the same I AM. Your conclusion takes totally out of context Jesus' interaction with the Jews in that passage. Though Jesus purposely spoke in parables at times so people would not understand, this was not a parable. This was a "truly, truly" statement of assurance. 14th November 2014 1:02pm John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Yasen I think that it is important to understand that the scriptures show that God is the Father in every case. Christ says that his God is His Father John 20 v 17 - and that the same being is also our God and Father. WE have now answered the question, who is Christ's God ! Who did Christ pray to ? His Father Who did Christ tell us to pray to - ? our Father. Do not worship a God which is a product of philosophical speculation by the early church fathers. Worship no other God than the one ... Read More 14th November 2014 7:56am John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Yasen Nice hearing from you! Regarding Matthew 4 vs 5-7 in which Christ says to the tempter 'thou shall not put the Lord thy God to the test- everything that Christ did or said was by the power of the Lord God Almighty. If Christ had thrown himself off the mountain , He would only have been savd by His Fathers power. In John 17v5 Christ refers to God saying 'the glory I had with you before the world was. Christ was only refering to the fact that He was The Messiah and as such had lways ... Read More 14th November 2014 7:39am admin (US) says... It should be noted here that this site does not believe Jesus to be a created being, nor does it agree with the unsupported interpretation of the provided scriptures. God is a family, known to be composed of two unique beings, originally called God and the Word, later to be called God the Father and Christ the Son; both of the family of God identified by their unique Spirit, known as the Holy Spirit. Jack and Jill went up the hill, both being from the family of mankind, identified by the spirit ... Read More 14th November 2014 8:27am  Many Christains possess a wrong view of the Trinity. It is time to learn the True Teaching. What I mean is that all of God,(power, authority, glory, Spirit) lives in Christ (not three GODS on three THRONES as people say). A good illustration of this is the Soul and Spirit living in the Body, in man. Does this make you three? No. Just as the Father and Holy Spirit lives in Christ, so does the Spirit and Soul live in Jesus Christ. The Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit represents the Name of ... Read More 2nd November 2014 4:54pm admin (US) says... From the study guide... 1. Hebrews:1:5 tells us that Jesus was begotten by His Father. Did He beget Himself? 2. In Matthew:22:44, the Father said Jesus would sit at His right hand until His enemies were made His footstool. Was Jesus to sit at His own right hand? 3. In Matthew:24:36, when Jesus told His disciples that no one knows the day or hour of His return but the Father only, did He really know but made up an excuse to not tell them? 4. In John:14:28, Jesus said His Father was greater than ... Read More 2nd November 2014 5:20pm ishbeli says... What did the early Christians believe? For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 1Timothy 2:5 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1 Corinthians 8v6 Notice how the apostle Paul believes that there is one God and one Lord Jesus. They are two different beings – not part of a trinity. Again we could mention here that the word “trinity” is ... Read More 7th January 2015 12:49pm admin (US) says... The study aid, Is God a Trinity?, referenced on this page, is very thorough, both in explaining the history of the formation of the doctrine and in going to scripture to discover what it reveals about God.
It's not bad news by any means. God is sovereign, indeed. God is just but merciful. Certainly, mysteries can be derived from Bible explanations, but God and how God functions, as revealed in scripture, is no mystery. It is how God is revealed in the Bible that makes our future so ... Read More 1st November 2014 9:59am John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Hi Admin You summed things up very well. All attempts to describe the relationship between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit end up by becoming either (i) Tritheism - three Gods or (ii)Modalism.-one God with different modes of existance rather like actors on a stage. Both these are considred to be heretical by modern churches. Why can we not keep it Biblical and not continue to support Catholic doctrine.?Blessings John 1st November 2014 9:35am John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Kris ..You are missing the point of my earlier post. .. You will say that there are three persons but if persons are described as independently acting and thinking entities each possessing an individual identity then you have three Gods... Blessings John 1st November 2014 9:08am John (Harare, Zimbabwe) says... Kris & Pastor Wilson The original Hebrew relating to Isaiah 9 v 6 reads---- "Pele-joez el gibbor -abi- ad- sar-shalom" and this is fairly translated by (i) The Tanakh (ii) The NAB Bible (iii) The New Jerusalem Bible..... That is ... "They name him Wonder counsellor, God-Hero, Father forever, Prince of Peace" ... Please note (a) The verse is in the PRESENT TENSE (b)This verse describes a persons NAME. Jews tells me that the person being referred to was Hezekiah Blessings John 1st November 2014 8:59am  Page 2 of 3
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